Friday, July 4, 2008
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Thursday, July 3, 2008
Has state GOP erred in excluding 'Paulites'?
ROCKY MOUNTAIN NEWS
Jana D. Bogs, Fort Collins
Thursday, June 12, 2008
Sometimes you lose even when you think you won. Such was the case with the recent Colorado Republican congressional district assemblies and state convention, which were clearly biased toward John McCain.
Mitt Romney was brought in to speak for half an hour on behalf of McCain. No one, however, was allowed to speak - for even 5 minutes - on behalf of Ron Paul. (Yes, he still is in the race for president!)
The assemblies and convention should support fair contests between all qualified candidates, but this was clearly not the case. There were slanderous papers placed on delegates' chairs blacklisting Paul supporters by name as individuals who are organizing "to stage an embarrassing public revolt against the party." And a so-called "unity slate" of prospective McCain national delegates was being passed out, against convention rules, on the floor of the convention and under the guise of being "endorsed by all major Republican presidential candidates."
It seems that the "powers that be" are attempting to quash any choice other than the candidate they have pre-selected. Is there no room for debate and hearing of alternative views? Where is our freedom of choice?
The old guard might think they won, but if they have alienated, through a lack of generosity and fairness, a significant contingent who are passionate supporters of Republican principles, they might find themselves with inadequate numbers come November . . . and in the losing position when it counts!
Originally posted *HERE*
Jana D. Bogs, Fort Collins
Thursday, June 12, 2008
Sometimes you lose even when you think you won. Such was the case with the recent Colorado Republican congressional district assemblies and state convention, which were clearly biased toward John McCain.
Mitt Romney was brought in to speak for half an hour on behalf of McCain. No one, however, was allowed to speak - for even 5 minutes - on behalf of Ron Paul. (Yes, he still is in the race for president!)
The assemblies and convention should support fair contests between all qualified candidates, but this was clearly not the case. There were slanderous papers placed on delegates' chairs blacklisting Paul supporters by name as individuals who are organizing "to stage an embarrassing public revolt against the party." And a so-called "unity slate" of prospective McCain national delegates was being passed out, against convention rules, on the floor of the convention and under the guise of being "endorsed by all major Republican presidential candidates."
It seems that the "powers that be" are attempting to quash any choice other than the candidate they have pre-selected. Is there no room for debate and hearing of alternative views? Where is our freedom of choice?
The old guard might think they won, but if they have alienated, through a lack of generosity and fairness, a significant contingent who are passionate supporters of Republican principles, they might find themselves with inadequate numbers come November . . . and in the losing position when it counts!
Originally posted *HERE*
Saturday, June 28, 2008
WE HAVE A QUORUM!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! NEVADA CHANGES THE COURSE OF HUMAN HISTORY........
Posted June 28th, 2008 by Jdayh
For those of you who REALLY WANT DESIRE AND NEED TO HAVE A FREE NATION....Nevada has set a landmark in the halls of history.....Today they have reconvened and remade the NEVADA GOP...and even as I am posting this they are electing delegates to the NATIONAL CONVENTION....(mostly, if not all, Ron Paul delegates) THIS WILL COUNT TOWARDS RON PAUL WINNING THE STATE OF NEVADA....with will allow them to NOMINATE HIM FROM THE FLOOR which is what this whole thing is really all about. Once he has a state that he legally wins(ie gets the majority of delegates for that state) He can then be nominated for President at the National Republican Convention. THIS MEANS THIS CAMPAIGN IS IN FULL GEAR!!!!!
Here is a bit of information on how they are doing this legally....
They did not have a quorum based on the old convention, but that convention has been invalidated due to rule breaking.(see below in bold) So now they have a new quorum with full attendance.Which means it is fully legal and shall withstand the scrutiny of legal challenges that may come!!!!
There is no "former" convention, the convention NEVER recessed. The convention has always been going on. Under RONR (10th. Ed.) sec. 20, p. 222, ln. 30,
"A recess is a short intermission in the assembly's proceedings, commonly only of a few minutes, which does not close the meeting and after which business will immediately be resumed at exactly the point where it was interrupted."
Thus, by definition, a recess can never be used to close a meeting. Under RONR, there are two types of recess: (1) a privileged motion to recess, requiring a majority vote, or (2) a unilateral recess being declared by the chair if it was provided for in the agenda or program. On April 26th, a RECESS was not provided for in the program or agenda (even though the agenda on April 26th. may have provided for ADJOURNMENT at a particular time, completely different from a recess).
Thus, the purported recess on April 26th. would have been valid ONLY if a motion to recess was made and seconded by the convention delegates, and the motion was voted on by a majority of delegates. Even then, however, the recess could not have been used to close the meeting.
For this reason shown above they now have a new quorum that is roughly 300 (a bit more) delegates. And now business is taking place with full legality and force of law behind them. WE THE PEOPLE SHALL AND WILL PREVAIL!!!!!
LONG LIVE THE REPUBLIC OF THESE UNITED STATES OF AMERICA.....now GO spread the word to every man, women and creature that we can still win Ron Paul the PRESIDENCY OF THE UNITED STATES OF AMERICA!!!!
For those of you who REALLY WANT DESIRE AND NEED TO HAVE A FREE NATION....Nevada has set a landmark in the halls of history.....Today they have reconvened and remade the NEVADA GOP...and even as I am posting this they are electing delegates to the NATIONAL CONVENTION....(mostly, if not all, Ron Paul delegates) THIS WILL COUNT TOWARDS RON PAUL WINNING THE STATE OF NEVADA....with will allow them to NOMINATE HIM FROM THE FLOOR which is what this whole thing is really all about. Once he has a state that he legally wins(ie gets the majority of delegates for that state) He can then be nominated for President at the National Republican Convention. THIS MEANS THIS CAMPAIGN IS IN FULL GEAR!!!!!
Here is a bit of information on how they are doing this legally....
They did not have a quorum based on the old convention, but that convention has been invalidated due to rule breaking.(see below in bold) So now they have a new quorum with full attendance.Which means it is fully legal and shall withstand the scrutiny of legal challenges that may come!!!!
There is no "former" convention, the convention NEVER recessed. The convention has always been going on. Under RONR (10th. Ed.) sec. 20, p. 222, ln. 30,
"A recess is a short intermission in the assembly's proceedings, commonly only of a few minutes, which does not close the meeting and after which business will immediately be resumed at exactly the point where it was interrupted."
Thus, by definition, a recess can never be used to close a meeting. Under RONR, there are two types of recess: (1) a privileged motion to recess, requiring a majority vote, or (2) a unilateral recess being declared by the chair if it was provided for in the agenda or program. On April 26th, a RECESS was not provided for in the program or agenda (even though the agenda on April 26th. may have provided for ADJOURNMENT at a particular time, completely different from a recess).
Thus, the purported recess on April 26th. would have been valid ONLY if a motion to recess was made and seconded by the convention delegates, and the motion was voted on by a majority of delegates. Even then, however, the recess could not have been used to close the meeting.
For this reason shown above they now have a new quorum that is roughly 300 (a bit more) delegates. And now business is taking place with full legality and force of law behind them. WE THE PEOPLE SHALL AND WILL PREVAIL!!!!!
LONG LIVE THE REPUBLIC OF THESE UNITED STATES OF AMERICA.....now GO spread the word to every man, women and creature that we can still win Ron Paul the PRESIDENCY OF THE UNITED STATES OF AMERICA!!!!
Tuesday, April 15, 2008
Thursday, March 13, 2008
This is how we WIN for Ron Paul!!!!! UPDATED / fixed LINKS
via MySpace -
This is How We Will Win
"The fact is Dr. Paul is a genius in his strategy and we are further
ahead in delegates than you think and we can win the nomination."
I was an administrator for the Democratic party for over 6 years and I am well educated in the nomination process, I left the party to support Dr. Paul so I know what I am talking about.
If you doubt my post go and research it yourself PLEASE here:
http://www.gop.com/images/2008_Call_FINAL.pdf
PLEASE EVERYONE COPY AND SEND THIS TO THEIR EMAIL LIST AND MEETUP HEADS AND ANY OTHER RON PAUL FORUM THERE IS.
I know many of you are new to the election process but don't worry.
I am going to go into some depth of how this all works so read and then read again if you need to.
Did you know that the delegates can actually vote to unbind their delegates that are bound by state rules? Did you know that delegates can actually overturn any previous vote? Did you know the delegates have control of the entire process?
The MSM is not reporting how to become the nominee in a situation like this so I will tell you to stop getting your info from the MSM.
I know many of you are bummed about Dr. Paul not getting more votes in the states popular vote BUT THAT IS BECAUSE YOU DO NOT UNDERSTAND HOW THE ELECTION SYSTEM WORKS : Let me explain to you the reality of how to become the nominee.
First stop looking at who wins each states popular vote for most of these states the vote by the people is really nothing but a straw poll and have no real bearing on who will become the nominee. The only way this matters is if 1 person receives 1191 delegates that are bound by state rules to be commited to that candidate. So if a candiate like Mccain now has 906 delegates now but he doesn't reach 1191 WHICH HE WILL NOT most of the delegates the state awarded him mean nothing and keep in mind in most of the states most of the people that represent the 906 for Mccain are actually Ron Paul supporters. NOW there is no possible way that anyone in the race can achieve this goal now because of the major split in state wins by the candidates.
Normally Convention Delegates do not matter because the convention is not brokered and we have a clear winner because someone has 1191 delegates. BUT THIS YEAR IS DIFFERENT. This will be a brokered convention there is no way around it. Do you see how the Ron Paul campaign strategy will work.
When a candidate wins delegates by winning a primary that does not mean there are actual people that won acting as delegates- these are virtual delegates.
What do I mean by virtual delegates: A virtual delegate is just a number - there are no actual people YET that will go and vote for the candidate who won the particular state at the national convention. We call these people convention delegates
The actual delegates are voted on (in most states) at a statewide delegate caucus after the Primary (which is just a giant preference poll) Who can be delegates? Anyone. In closed Primary states they must be registered Republicans, in Open Primary states they can be Republicans, Democrats, Independents.
View the hard count of actual pledged delegates here:
http://www. thegreenpapers. com/P08/R. phtml
And we have lots of delegates.
Out of the 2,380 delegates sent to Minneapolis St. Paul in September:
• 463 delegates are bound all the way through the convention some of those 463 are Ron Paul's people.
• 565 delegates will be bound through one ballot. That is, they have to follow the results of the state election on the first ballot. After that, if no candidate has a majority of delegates, they are free to vote as they please and Mccain will not receive over 50% on the first ballot.
• 383 will be bound through two ballots then they are free to vote for whom they wish.
• 318 will be bound through three ballots then they are free to vote for whom they wish.
I am not going to list every state and what the break downs are, just do the math from these numbers or look for yourself here:
http://www.gop. com/Images/AllStateSummaries.pdf
Bottom line is less than 1/2 of the delegates are bound by state party rules. Now do you see how we can win this thing?
So what happens now you ask? You look at the number of delegates that Dr. Paul has that are uncommited to the other candidates and will support him. these delegates are not decided by the popular vote ie: straw poll of the people. Since no one will have enough delegates to skate them through to the nomination we now must look at how many delegates NOT VOTES but delegates Dr. Paul has that are 100% uncommited to the other candidates and will be 100% for Dr. Paul and are free to vote for whom they wish.
This race will go all the way to the convention for there is no other way for someone to receive the nomination until the convention.
The RNC will convene its annual Winter Meeting - and voters will continue to cast their ballots in the nation's primaries and caucuses. Candidates for delegate and alternate delegate to the convention will be elected - and thousands of convention participants and guests will begin planning their trips to Minneapolis-Saint Paul The first week in September 2008
SO WHAT DOES ALL THIS MEAN?
This means that all of the people that registered to become a delegate for Dr. Paul can go to the convention and cast their vote for Dr. Paul, now think about what I just said : Do you think for one second that all the people that voted for Dr. Paul and filed to become a delegate will not show up at the convention to vote for the good Doctor? Of course they will just like they battled the rain and the sleet and the 15 below zero winter weather to knock on doors and wave signs spreading our message.
Now I assure you that even though we didn't win the popular vote in many states WE DID PICK UP THE MAJORITY OF DELEGATES THAN ALL THE OTHER CANDIDATES IN MOST EVERY STATE EXCEPT A FEW. So yes they won the straw poll and we won what counts which is delegates.
Doesn't Dr. Paul need to WIN 5 states to be on the ballot at the convention for the nomination?
NO THIS IS NOT TRUE for people were just confused on how it actually works.
We only need the majority of delegates from 5 states to be put on the ballot NOT THE POPULAR VOTE OF 5 STATES and I assure you we have picked up the majority of uncommitted delegates for Dr. Paul in more than 5 states.
Do any of you remember seeing posts by myself and many others that said BECOME A DELEGATE? There is still time in most states to become a delegate for the convention and we are picking up more of them every day.
So please STOP! you worry too much because you do not understand how the election system works and you thought we lost didn't you? I assure you we have not!
The fact is Dr. Paul is a genius in his strategy and we are further ahead in delegates than you think and we can win the nomination.
I hope this gives a better understanding of how we have been winning even though most of you thought we were not.
NOW LET'S KEEP WORKING! FILE TODAY AND BECOME A DELEGATE BEFORE IT IS TOO LATE!
Info on how to become a delegate here :
http://www.google.com/search?hl=en&suggon=0&q=how+to+become+a+Republican+delegate
Dr. Steve Parent
http://www. dailypaul. com/node/36650
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"The fact is Dr. Paul is a genius in his strategy and we are further
ahead in delegates than you think and we can win the nomination."
I was an administrator for the Democratic party for over 6 years and I am well educated in the nomination process, I left the party to support Dr. Paul so I know what I am talking about.
If you doubt my post go and research it yourself PLEASE here:
http://www.gop.com/images/2008_Call_FINAL.pdf
PLEASE EVERYONE COPY AND SEND THIS TO THEIR EMAIL LIST AND MEETUP HEADS AND ANY OTHER RON PAUL FORUM THERE IS.
I know many of you are new to the election process but don't worry.
I am going to go into some depth of how this all works so read and then read again if you need to.
Did you know that the delegates can actually vote to unbind their delegates that are bound by state rules? Did you know that delegates can actually overturn any previous vote? Did you know the delegates have control of the entire process?
The MSM is not reporting how to become the nominee in a situation like this so I will tell you to stop getting your info from the MSM.
I know many of you are bummed about Dr. Paul not getting more votes in the states popular vote BUT THAT IS BECAUSE YOU DO NOT UNDERSTAND HOW THE ELECTION SYSTEM WORKS : Let me explain to you the reality of how to become the nominee.
First stop looking at who wins each states popular vote for most of these states the vote by the people is really nothing but a straw poll and have no real bearing on who will become the nominee. The only way this matters is if 1 person receives 1191 delegates that are bound by state rules to be commited to that candidate. So if a candiate like Mccain now has 906 delegates now but he doesn't reach 1191 WHICH HE WILL NOT most of the delegates the state awarded him mean nothing and keep in mind in most of the states most of the people that represent the 906 for Mccain are actually Ron Paul supporters. NOW there is no possible way that anyone in the race can achieve this goal now because of the major split in state wins by the candidates.
Normally Convention Delegates do not matter because the convention is not brokered and we have a clear winner because someone has 1191 delegates. BUT THIS YEAR IS DIFFERENT. This will be a brokered convention there is no way around it. Do you see how the Ron Paul campaign strategy will work.
When a candidate wins delegates by winning a primary that does not mean there are actual people that won acting as delegates- these are virtual delegates.
What do I mean by virtual delegates: A virtual delegate is just a number - there are no actual people YET that will go and vote for the candidate who won the particular state at the national convention. We call these people convention delegates
The actual delegates are voted on (in most states) at a statewide delegate caucus after the Primary (which is just a giant preference poll) Who can be delegates? Anyone. In closed Primary states they must be registered Republicans, in Open Primary states they can be Republicans, Democrats, Independents.
View the hard count of actual pledged delegates here:
http://www. thegreenpapers. com/P08/R. phtml
And we have lots of delegates.
Out of the 2,380 delegates sent to Minneapolis St. Paul in September:
• 463 delegates are bound all the way through the convention some of those 463 are Ron Paul's people.
• 565 delegates will be bound through one ballot. That is, they have to follow the results of the state election on the first ballot. After that, if no candidate has a majority of delegates, they are free to vote as they please and Mccain will not receive over 50% on the first ballot.
• 383 will be bound through two ballots then they are free to vote for whom they wish.
• 318 will be bound through three ballots then they are free to vote for whom they wish.
I am not going to list every state and what the break downs are, just do the math from these numbers or look for yourself here:
http://www.gop. com/Images/AllStateSummaries.pdf
Bottom line is less than 1/2 of the delegates are bound by state party rules. Now do you see how we can win this thing?
So what happens now you ask? You look at the number of delegates that Dr. Paul has that are uncommited to the other candidates and will support him. these delegates are not decided by the popular vote ie: straw poll of the people. Since no one will have enough delegates to skate them through to the nomination we now must look at how many delegates NOT VOTES but delegates Dr. Paul has that are 100% uncommited to the other candidates and will be 100% for Dr. Paul and are free to vote for whom they wish.
This race will go all the way to the convention for there is no other way for someone to receive the nomination until the convention.
The RNC will convene its annual Winter Meeting - and voters will continue to cast their ballots in the nation's primaries and caucuses. Candidates for delegate and alternate delegate to the convention will be elected - and thousands of convention participants and guests will begin planning their trips to Minneapolis-Saint Paul The first week in September 2008
SO WHAT DOES ALL THIS MEAN?
This means that all of the people that registered to become a delegate for Dr. Paul can go to the convention and cast their vote for Dr. Paul, now think about what I just said : Do you think for one second that all the people that voted for Dr. Paul and filed to become a delegate will not show up at the convention to vote for the good Doctor? Of course they will just like they battled the rain and the sleet and the 15 below zero winter weather to knock on doors and wave signs spreading our message.
Now I assure you that even though we didn't win the popular vote in many states WE DID PICK UP THE MAJORITY OF DELEGATES THAN ALL THE OTHER CANDIDATES IN MOST EVERY STATE EXCEPT A FEW. So yes they won the straw poll and we won what counts which is delegates.
Doesn't Dr. Paul need to WIN 5 states to be on the ballot at the convention for the nomination?
NO THIS IS NOT TRUE for people were just confused on how it actually works.
We only need the majority of delegates from 5 states to be put on the ballot NOT THE POPULAR VOTE OF 5 STATES and I assure you we have picked up the majority of uncommitted delegates for Dr. Paul in more than 5 states.
Do any of you remember seeing posts by myself and many others that said BECOME A DELEGATE? There is still time in most states to become a delegate for the convention and we are picking up more of them every day.
So please STOP! you worry too much because you do not understand how the election system works and you thought we lost didn't you? I assure you we have not!
The fact is Dr. Paul is a genius in his strategy and we are further ahead in delegates than you think and we can win the nomination.
I hope this gives a better understanding of how we have been winning even though most of you thought we were not.
NOW LET'S KEEP WORKING! FILE TODAY AND BECOME A DELEGATE BEFORE IT IS TOO LATE!
Info on how to become a delegate here :
http://www.google.com/search?hl=en&suggon=0&q=how+to+become+a+Republican+delegate
Dr. Steve Parent
http://www. dailypaul. com/node/36650
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Saturday, March 8, 2008
Lincoln WON with only less than 10% of the delegates!
via MySpace - (Lincoln is in the second half of this bulletin):
In the CNN interview from 3/10/08, Ron Paul uses the word, "nominal," twice. ("McCain has the nominal number." at 0:51 and "nominal sense" at 2:27.) When I first watched the video, I thought that Ron misspoke. Now that I've thought about his use of that word some more, I realize that Ron was telling everyone that McCain only has the nomination in name only because he has an insignificantly small number of delegates bound to him. We all need to try to be as smart as Ron Paul if we're going to win delegates for him. The MSM is allowing him to talk to everyone now. He obviously can't let McCain or the GOP establishment know that thousands of his supporters are working towards becoming delegates. The result of leaking that information would be an increase in the efforts of the establishment to prevent us from winning. Listen again to what Ron said after reading these definitions for "nominal":
nom·i·nal (nòm¹e-nel) adjective
1. a. Of, resembling, relating to, or consisting of a name or names. b. Assigned to or bearing a person's name: nominal shares.
2. Existing in name only.
3. Philosophy. Of or relating to nominalism.
4. Insignificantly small; trifling: a nominal sum.
5. Business. a. Of, relating to, or being the amount or face value of a sum of money or a stock certificate, for example, and not the purchasing power or market value. b. Of, relating to, or being the rate of interest or return without adjustment for compounding or inflation.
6. Grammar. Of or relating to a noun or word group that functions as a noun.
7. Aerospace & Engineering. According to plan or design: a nominal flight check.
[Middle English nominalle, of nouns, from Latin nominâlis, of names, from nomen, nomin-, name.]
— nom¹i·nal·ly adverb
The American Heritage Dictionary of the English Language, Third Edition is licensed from Houghton Mifflin Company. Copyright © 1992 by Houghton Mifflin Company. All rights reserved. Selected Illustrations from the Concise Columbia Encyclopedia. Copyright © 1991 by Columbia University Press.
Lincoln Won with Less than 10% of Delegates (DECODED)
----------------- Bulletin Message -----------------
From: Weapon Shop
Date: Mar 11, 2008 10:30 PM
I like to believe that when Ron Paul said "Though victory in the traditional political sense is not available,..." he was speaking in "code" about something like this. --Obadiah
From: Dane Petersen (Ron Paul - President 2008)
It is up to the delegates to decide who to vote for come the Republican convention from Sept. 1st thru Sept. 4th.
The only two Republican candidates left are John McCain & Ron Paul.
The Main Stream Media, once again, is jumping the gun. They fail to report how politics REALLY works.
Remember, Abraham Lincoln won the Republican nomination and the Presidency with only 22 delegates (out of 233 needed to win). Please READ the full-story below.
How Lincoln Won the 1860 Republican Nomination
by Gordon Leidner of Great American History
One of the most interesting American political stories involves the nomination of Abraham Lincoln to be the Republican party's candidate for President of the United States in 1860. This was the Republican party's second presidential convention, and the man everyone expected to receive the nomination was the powerful and well-known William H. Seward of New York.
Abraham Lincoln, although having recently been introduced to eastern audiences through a series of political speeches in New England, and prior to that having gained some fame due to his participation in "the Great Debates" with Stephen A. Douglas, was not considered a serious contender for the appointment. How he and his political team brought him from "dark horse" contender to the victor is the subject of the following article.
Lincoln Outfoxed Seward for the Nomination
by Gordon Leidner
In May 1860, the nation’s attention turned toward Chicago, where the Republicans were meeting to select their presidential candidate.
William H. Seward, the Republican front-runner from New York, sent his political team to Chicago to lock up his party’s nomination. In the mid-nineteenth century, it was not considered proper for the aspiring candidate to go to the convention himself, so Seward sent his political manager, Thurlow Weed, along with his states’ 70 delegates and 13 railroad cars of supporters.
The residents of Chicago were delighted to have their city of 100,000 chosen for the Republican party’s second presidential convention. At the cost of about $6,000, Republicans there built a new convention center for the occasion. Nicknamed "The Wigwam," it had excellent acoustics and could seat more than 10,000, which purportedly would be the largest audience yet assembled in the country under one roof.
The candidates
Seward and Weed--some would say the unscrupulous Weed--were confident. It would take 233 votes to win the nomination, and they had nearly a third of that in the New York delegation alone.
Who could possibly upset their plans? Not Pennsylvania’s candidate, Simon Cameron. Cameron was considered a crook by most of the country, and would have little support outside of the 54 delegates from Pennsylvania. Not Ohio’s Salmon P. Chase. Ohio’s 46 votes probably would be split between he and fellow Ohioans Sen. Ben Wade and Judge John McClean. Not Missouri’s Edwin Bates--although Bates had Missouri’s 18 delegates and the backing of the nation’s most powerful newspaper editor, Horace Greely of the New York Tribune.
Seward and Weed recognized that they were not on their own turf, and anticipated that Illinois’ "Favorite Son," Abraham Lincoln, probably would receive all of the states’ 22 votes. Since Illinois was considered a doubtful state for candidate Seward should he be the Republican candidate (where he would have a tough time defeating the anticipated Democratic nominee--Illinois’ other favorite son, Stephen A. Douglas), Weed was prepared to acquire Illinois votes on the second ballot by offering Lincoln the vice-presidential spot.
That should secure Seward’s nomination in the event of a tough floor fight, he and his supporters reckoned.
Lincoln's strategy
Lincoln had been busy preparing for the convention as well. Using all his political skill, he had persuaded the Illinois delegation to vote for him in a bloc. To lead the floor fight, he selected David Davis, a trusted friend, and Norman Judd, who was due most of the credit for bringing the Republican convention to Chicago. Finally, he provided them with some tactical guidance and limitations of engagement, which included an admonishment to "make no deals that bind me," and waited in Springfield for the results.
Confident that Seward would not have enough votes to lock up the nomination on the first ballot, Lincoln intended to get the second highest vote count on the first ballot and line up additional votes for the second ballot in order to show increasing strength. He hoped that this strategy--combined with the presence of an enthusiastic band of followers on the floor--would be sufficient to win the nomination on the third or subsequent ballot.
Lincoln’s men left no detail unattended in their pursuit of this strategy. They made certain that Seward’s New Yorkers were seated far from other critical delegations with whom they might collaborate. They printed hundreds of counterfeit tickets and distributed them to Lincoln supporters with instructions to show up early--in order to displace Seward’s supporters.
They also assigned two men with noted stentorian voices to lead the cheering. One of these men reportedly had a larynx powerful enough to allow his shout to be heard across Lake Michigan.
Stop Seward
The first two days of the convention were devoted to acceptance of delegates, administration, and the platform. The evenings were spent in the caucusing of delegates. Weed’s approach was to offer champagne for the present and "oceans of money" for the future.
In contrast, Davis and Judd spent their time lining up votes from delegates of other states that didn’t want to see Seward win. Indiana committed 26 first ballot votes to Lincoln. Several of the New England states, including New Hampshire and Maine, provided Lincoln with many first ballot votes that Seward was planning on.
Even more important were the second ballot votes. Several states, including Vermont, were glad to find that the "stop Seward" forces were finally uniting behind one man and committed most of their subsequent votes to Lincoln.
Pennsylvania was harder to crack. Davis chose to ignore Lincoln’s direction about making pledges in his absence, and got a commitment from Pennsylvania to support Lincoln on the second ballot by offering a cabinet position to Simon Cameron.
Beyond description
Finally, the third day arrived. One thousand Seward men marched behind a smartly uniformed brass band. They wound their way noisily through Chicago’s streets, playing the song "Oh, Isn’t He a Darling?" and finally arrived triumphantly in front of the Wigwam. To their horror, they found that they could not get in: the Lincoln men, admitted with their counterfeit tickets, had taken their seats.
Still, Seward had his share of support. When his name was offered in nomination, tremendous applause went up from the audience--followed by louder applause for Lincoln. The crowd quickly recognized them as the front-runners when the other candidates received less enthusiastic commendation.
When Seward’s name was seconded, the demonstration was so vociferous that "hundreds of persons stopped their ears in pain." But when Lincoln’s nomination was seconded, the uproar was "beyond description."
Leonard Swett, a friend of Lincoln’s, said that "Five thousand people leaped to their seats, women not wanting, and the wild yell made vesper breathings of all that had preceded. A thousand steam whistles, ten acres of hotel gongs, a tribe of Comanches might have mingled in the scene unnoticed."
Holding their breath
After the first ballot, Seward, as expected, led with 173 votes. Lincoln was next with 102. Cameron received 50; Chase got 49; Bates 48; and the rest received a handful each.
A second ballot was immediately called for, and the Lincoln camp knew that their man would gain strength. Vermont was the first state to make a major shift--all 10 votes went to Lincoln, a significant blow to Seward. As the roll call continued, Lincoln gained a few votes here and a few there, while Seward’s tally remained largely unchanged.
When Pennsylvania’s turn came, the Lincoln men held their breath. Whereas only four votes from Pennsylvania went to Lincoln on the first ballot, a whopping 48 went to him on the second. Seward supporters sank in their seats. Lincoln clearly had the momentum. The final tally on the second ballot was 184 for Seward and 181 for Lincoln.
A hush fell
Ballot three began. Lincoln continued to pick up votes--4 more from Kentucky, 15 from Ohio--while Seward lost votes. When the pencils stopped scratching, Lincoln had 231 and a half votes--one and a half short of those needed for the nomination.
A hush fell, and all eyes turned toward D. K. Cartter of Ohio, who stuttered out: "I-I arise, Mr. Chairman, to a-announce the ch-change of four votes, from Mr. Chase to Abraham Lincoln!" For a moment, the audience was silent--then it erupted. The sound was so deafening that the only way people could tell that cannons outside the Wigwam were being fired was by watching the smoke drift from the barrels.
Ironic footnote
So Lincoln was nominated and would be elected the nation’s 16th president. He appointed Seward secretary of state, Cameron secretary of war, Chase secretary of the Treasury, and Bates attorney general.
Lincoln proved to be a better leader than Seward. For example, when the South seceded, Seward proposed that Lincoln evoke the Monroe Doctrine to justify a declaration of war on France and Spain--which he believed would cause the South to come to the North’s aid and re-join the Union. Lincoln ignored this foolishness. "The President is the best of us!" Seward would admit later.
There is an ironic footnote to the convention story: A few blocks from the Wigwam, on the second night of the convention, the McVicker’s Theater was opening "Our American Cousin" --the play Lincoln would be watching at Ford’s Theater his last night on Earth.
Source: http://www.greatamericanhistory.net/nomination.htm
In the CNN interview from 3/10/08, Ron Paul uses the word, "nominal," twice. ("McCain has the nominal number." at 0:51 and "nominal sense" at 2:27.) When I first watched the video, I thought that Ron misspoke. Now that I've thought about his use of that word some more, I realize that Ron was telling everyone that McCain only has the nomination in name only because he has an insignificantly small number of delegates bound to him. We all need to try to be as smart as Ron Paul if we're going to win delegates for him. The MSM is allowing him to talk to everyone now. He obviously can't let McCain or the GOP establishment know that thousands of his supporters are working towards becoming delegates. The result of leaking that information would be an increase in the efforts of the establishment to prevent us from winning. Listen again to what Ron said after reading these definitions for "nominal":
nom·i·nal (nòm¹e-nel) adjective
1. a. Of, resembling, relating to, or consisting of a name or names. b. Assigned to or bearing a person's name: nominal shares.
2. Existing in name only.
3. Philosophy. Of or relating to nominalism.
4. Insignificantly small; trifling: a nominal sum.
5. Business. a. Of, relating to, or being the amount or face value of a sum of money or a stock certificate, for example, and not the purchasing power or market value. b. Of, relating to, or being the rate of interest or return without adjustment for compounding or inflation.
6. Grammar. Of or relating to a noun or word group that functions as a noun.
7. Aerospace & Engineering. According to plan or design: a nominal flight check.
[Middle English nominalle, of nouns, from Latin nominâlis, of names, from nomen, nomin-, name.]
— nom¹i·nal·ly adverb
The American Heritage Dictionary of the English Language, Third Edition is licensed from Houghton Mifflin Company. Copyright © 1992 by Houghton Mifflin Company. All rights reserved. Selected Illustrations from the Concise Columbia Encyclopedia. Copyright © 1991 by Columbia University Press.
Lincoln Won with Less than 10% of Delegates (DECODED)
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Date: Mar 11, 2008 10:30 PM
I like to believe that when Ron Paul said "Though victory in the traditional political sense is not available,..." he was speaking in "code" about something like this. --Obadiah
From: Dane Petersen (Ron Paul - President 2008)
It is up to the delegates to decide who to vote for come the Republican convention from Sept. 1st thru Sept. 4th.
The only two Republican candidates left are John McCain & Ron Paul.
The Main Stream Media, once again, is jumping the gun. They fail to report how politics REALLY works.
Remember, Abraham Lincoln won the Republican nomination and the Presidency with only 22 delegates (out of 233 needed to win). Please READ the full-story below.
How Lincoln Won the 1860 Republican Nomination
by Gordon Leidner of Great American History
One of the most interesting American political stories involves the nomination of Abraham Lincoln to be the Republican party's candidate for President of the United States in 1860. This was the Republican party's second presidential convention, and the man everyone expected to receive the nomination was the powerful and well-known William H. Seward of New York.
Abraham Lincoln, although having recently been introduced to eastern audiences through a series of political speeches in New England, and prior to that having gained some fame due to his participation in "the Great Debates" with Stephen A. Douglas, was not considered a serious contender for the appointment. How he and his political team brought him from "dark horse" contender to the victor is the subject of the following article.
Lincoln Outfoxed Seward for the Nomination
by Gordon Leidner
In May 1860, the nation’s attention turned toward Chicago, where the Republicans were meeting to select their presidential candidate.
William H. Seward, the Republican front-runner from New York, sent his political team to Chicago to lock up his party’s nomination. In the mid-nineteenth century, it was not considered proper for the aspiring candidate to go to the convention himself, so Seward sent his political manager, Thurlow Weed, along with his states’ 70 delegates and 13 railroad cars of supporters.The residents of Chicago were delighted to have their city of 100,000 chosen for the Republican party’s second presidential convention. At the cost of about $6,000, Republicans there built a new convention center for the occasion. Nicknamed "The Wigwam," it had excellent acoustics and could seat more than 10,000, which purportedly would be the largest audience yet assembled in the country under one roof.
The candidates
Seward and Weed--some would say the unscrupulous Weed--were confident. It would take 233 votes to win the nomination, and they had nearly a third of that in the New York delegation alone.
Who could possibly upset their plans? Not Pennsylvania’s candidate, Simon Cameron. Cameron was considered a crook by most of the country, and would have little support outside of the 54 delegates from Pennsylvania. Not Ohio’s Salmon P. Chase. Ohio’s 46 votes probably would be split between he and fellow Ohioans Sen. Ben Wade and Judge John McClean. Not Missouri’s Edwin Bates--although Bates had Missouri’s 18 delegates and the backing of the nation’s most powerful newspaper editor, Horace Greely of the New York Tribune.
Seward and Weed recognized that they were not on their own turf, and anticipated that Illinois’ "Favorite Son," Abraham Lincoln, probably would receive all of the states’ 22 votes. Since Illinois was considered a doubtful state for candidate Seward should he be the Republican candidate (where he would have a tough time defeating the anticipated Democratic nominee--Illinois’ other favorite son, Stephen A. Douglas), Weed was prepared to acquire Illinois votes on the second ballot by offering Lincoln the vice-presidential spot.That should secure Seward’s nomination in the event of a tough floor fight, he and his supporters reckoned.
Lincoln's strategy
Lincoln had been busy preparing for the convention as well. Using all his political skill, he had persuaded the Illinois delegation to vote for him in a bloc. To lead the floor fight, he selected David Davis, a trusted friend, and Norman Judd, who was due most of the credit for bringing the Republican convention to Chicago. Finally, he provided them with some tactical guidance and limitations of engagement, which included an admonishment to "make no deals that bind me," and waited in Springfield for the results.Confident that Seward would not have enough votes to lock up the nomination on the first ballot, Lincoln intended to get the second highest vote count on the first ballot and line up additional votes for the second ballot in order to show increasing strength. He hoped that this strategy--combined with the presence of an enthusiastic band of followers on the floor--would be sufficient to win the nomination on the third or subsequent ballot.
Lincoln’s men left no detail unattended in their pursuit of this strategy. They made certain that Seward’s New Yorkers were seated far from other critical delegations with whom they might collaborate. They printed hundreds of counterfeit tickets and distributed them to Lincoln supporters with instructions to show up early--in order to displace Seward’s supporters.
They also assigned two men with noted stentorian voices to lead the cheering. One of these men reportedly had a larynx powerful enough to allow his shout to be heard across Lake Michigan.
Stop Seward
The first two days of the convention were devoted to acceptance of delegates, administration, and the platform. The evenings were spent in the caucusing of delegates. Weed’s approach was to offer champagne for the present and "oceans of money" for the future.
In contrast, Davis and Judd spent their time lining up votes from delegates of other states that didn’t want to see Seward win. Indiana committed 26 first ballot votes to Lincoln. Several of the New England states, including New Hampshire and Maine, provided Lincoln with many first ballot votes that Seward was planning on.
Even more important were the second ballot votes. Several states, including Vermont, were glad to find that the "stop Seward" forces were finally uniting behind one man and committed most of their subsequent votes to Lincoln.
Pennsylvania was harder to crack. Davis chose to ignore Lincoln’s direction about making pledges in his absence, and got a commitment from Pennsylvania to support Lincoln on the second ballot by offering a cabinet position to Simon Cameron.
Beyond description
Finally, the third day arrived. One thousand Seward men marched behind a smartly uniformed brass band. They wound their way noisily through Chicago’s streets, playing the song "Oh, Isn’t He a Darling?" and finally arrived triumphantly in front of the Wigwam. To their horror, they found that they could not get in: the Lincoln men, admitted with their counterfeit tickets, had taken their seats.
Still, Seward had his share of support. When his name was offered in nomination, tremendous applause went up from the audience--followed by louder applause for Lincoln. The crowd quickly recognized them as the front-runners when the other candidates received less enthusiastic commendation.
When Seward’s name was seconded, the demonstration was so vociferous that "hundreds of persons stopped their ears in pain." But when Lincoln’s nomination was seconded, the uproar was "beyond description."
Leonard Swett, a friend of Lincoln’s, said that "Five thousand people leaped to their seats, women not wanting, and the wild yell made vesper breathings of all that had preceded. A thousand steam whistles, ten acres of hotel gongs, a tribe of Comanches might have mingled in the scene unnoticed."
Holding their breath
After the first ballot, Seward, as expected, led with 173 votes. Lincoln was next with 102. Cameron received 50; Chase got 49; Bates 48; and the rest received a handful each.
A second ballot was immediately called for, and the Lincoln camp knew that their man would gain strength. Vermont was the first state to make a major shift--all 10 votes went to Lincoln, a significant blow to Seward. As the roll call continued, Lincoln gained a few votes here and a few there, while Seward’s tally remained largely unchanged.
When Pennsylvania’s turn came, the Lincoln men held their breath. Whereas only four votes from Pennsylvania went to Lincoln on the first ballot, a whopping 48 went to him on the second. Seward supporters sank in their seats. Lincoln clearly had the momentum. The final tally on the second ballot was 184 for Seward and 181 for Lincoln.
A hush fell
Ballot three began. Lincoln continued to pick up votes--4 more from Kentucky, 15 from Ohio--while Seward lost votes. When the pencils stopped scratching, Lincoln had 231 and a half votes--one and a half short of those needed for the nomination.
A hush fell, and all eyes turned toward D. K. Cartter of Ohio, who stuttered out: "I-I arise, Mr. Chairman, to a-announce the ch-change of four votes, from Mr. Chase to Abraham Lincoln!" For a moment, the audience was silent--then it erupted. The sound was so deafening that the only way people could tell that cannons outside the Wigwam were being fired was by watching the smoke drift from the barrels.
Ironic footnote
So Lincoln was nominated and would be elected the nation’s 16th president. He appointed Seward secretary of state, Cameron secretary of war, Chase secretary of the Treasury, and Bates attorney general.
Lincoln proved to be a better leader than Seward. For example, when the South seceded, Seward proposed that Lincoln evoke the Monroe Doctrine to justify a declaration of war on France and Spain--which he believed would cause the South to come to the North’s aid and re-join the Union. Lincoln ignored this foolishness. "The President is the best of us!" Seward would admit later.
There is an ironic footnote to the convention story: A few blocks from the Wigwam, on the second night of the convention, the McVicker’s Theater was opening "Our American Cousin" --the play Lincoln would be watching at Ford’s Theater his last night on Earth.
Wednesday, February 27, 2008
Ron Paul Wants To End Anti-Cuban Sanctions
Posted by Lew Rockwell at February 20, 2008 03:30 PM
http://www.lewrockwell.com/blog/lewrw/archives/019521.html
Ron Paul has always advocated free trade with Cuba: no barriers, no subsidies, and complete freedom for Americans to buy Cuban goods, and American farmers and businessmen to export to Cuba. Ron also knows that free trade means exporting capitalism to Cuba, just what that poor country needs. All the other candidates are for tightening the screws on Cubans (and would-be American traders and visitors). Ron Paul wants to export freedom and private property rights. And good for him for using the occasion of Castro's resignation to call for an end to immoral and protectionist anti-civilian sanctions.
http://www.lewrockwell.com/blog/lewrw/archives/019522.html
Another Lie About Ron
Posted by Anthony Gregory at February 20, 2008 03:46 PM
Some of his detractors say he's a protectionist, but of course he's not. In the video Lew posts, Ron Paul again reiterates his free trade principles concerning the evil embargo on Cuba and US sanctions as weapons of war. It is true that Ron is opposed to bureaucratic managed trade agreements and international agencies like the WTO, but he is a champion of unilaterally lowering tariffs, like all classical liberals, as well as an opponent of the most vicious trade restrictions of all. He sees trade as a human right and the path to peace and prosperity. And he points out the hypocrisy of the "free trade" Republicans who helped cut trade off from the Iraqi people, leading to hundreds of thousands of deaths.
http://www.lewrockwell.com/blog/lewrw/archives/019521.html
Ron Paul has always advocated free trade with Cuba: no barriers, no subsidies, and complete freedom for Americans to buy Cuban goods, and American farmers and businessmen to export to Cuba. Ron also knows that free trade means exporting capitalism to Cuba, just what that poor country needs. All the other candidates are for tightening the screws on Cubans (and would-be American traders and visitors). Ron Paul wants to export freedom and private property rights. And good for him for using the occasion of Castro's resignation to call for an end to immoral and protectionist anti-civilian sanctions.
http://www.lewrockwell.com/blog/lewrw/archives/019522.html
Another Lie About Ron
Posted by Anthony Gregory at February 20, 2008 03:46 PM
Some of his detractors say he's a protectionist, but of course he's not. In the video Lew posts, Ron Paul again reiterates his free trade principles concerning the evil embargo on Cuba and US sanctions as weapons of war. It is true that Ron is opposed to bureaucratic managed trade agreements and international agencies like the WTO, but he is a champion of unilaterally lowering tariffs, like all classical liberals, as well as an opponent of the most vicious trade restrictions of all. He sees trade as a human right and the path to peace and prosperity. And he points out the hypocrisy of the "free trade" Republicans who helped cut trade off from the Iraqi people, leading to hundreds of thousands of deaths.
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